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Tyler96
01-26-2011, 12:47 PM
I shot my first mule deer buck last year, still trying for my first white tailed buck. I hope this year is my year! I found some info about hybrid bucks in BC, I was wondering if anybody has some pics of hybrid bucks they have shot and could post them so I know what to look for next time I go hunting.

here is the article from BC Outdoors (http://www.bcoutdoorsmagazine.com/othmarvohringer/?p=181)

thanks!

here is a pic of my mule deer buck!

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs096.snc3/16354_104837069530782_100000134692249_130781_66085 82_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs116.snc3/16354_104837439530745_100000134692249_130785_46362 02_n.jpg

Kirby
01-26-2011, 12:55 PM
Do a search about Hybrids and you'll find its been discussed many times over.

Congrats on the buck.

BCrams
01-26-2011, 01:37 PM
I'd like to see some photo's too Tyler.

You probably won't see a hybrid in your lifetime of hunting so I wouldn't worry about trying to find one. Rumour had it though McBride has fields of them from a member who used to frequent the site, but I've yet to see one in all my travels there.

Like Kirby says, great first buck you took!! Congrats.

MuleyMadness
01-26-2011, 03:57 PM
I've seen more hemaphrodite deer (well WT does with antlers, or in some cases antler, like a unicorn)than I have hybrids, but I have seen some mulie bucks with all their points coming off a main beam, so I suppose they might have been. Would likely need to do a DNA test to be sure though.

kennyj
01-26-2011, 05:52 PM
Nice first buck.
kenny

Tyler96
01-26-2011, 11:09 PM
thanks guys! it sure was alot of excitement. here's some jerky we made with the buck, sure was good

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs187.snc4/37679_145162342164921_100000134692249_456742_96385 _n.jpg

After reading the story on BC Outdoors I thought maybe it was a popular species in BC. Only seen mule deer and whitetail deer and black tail deer in my CORE book, confused me when I read about the hybrids. If you do shoot a hybrid, what tag do you cut if you have both in your hunters booklet? It didn't say in the article what tag the hunter cut

BCrams
01-26-2011, 11:48 PM
After reading the story on BC Outdoors I thought maybe it was a popular species in BC. Only seen mule deer and whitetail deer and black tail deer in my CORE book, confused me when I read about the hybrids. If you do shoot a hybrid, what tag do you cut if you have both in your hunters booklet? It didn't say in the article what tag the hunter cut

Tyler,

Hybrids are not popular, nor are they abundant. Chances are you will never see one in your lifetime like most of us.

I wouldn't worry about it. Stick with mule deer and white-tailed deer like you know them and you'll be fine!

You've got a good start to a long hunting career.

Nathaniel Poe
01-27-2011, 12:20 AM
Most of the time when someone thinks they have shot a hybrid, it's just a mule deer with a 3x3 antler configuration that makes them think it's a whitetail rack. I did see an honest hybrid in a US hunting magazine once, it was years ago. I've never heard of one being shot in BC.

Old Crow
01-27-2011, 12:29 AM
That's obviously hybrid jerky, I mean c'mon, just look at it!
Congrats on the buck! :D

Camp Cook
01-27-2011, 07:19 AM
Congrats on your deer...

I have shot several hybrid blacktail/mule deer bucks over the years most came from the Sawaqua area just off the Coquihalla Hwy but you can find them anywhere that blacktail/mule deer ranges intersect with each other.

and here is a bit of info that you may not know it has now been proven thru DNA studies that it was a whitetail/blacktail getting together many years ago that created mule deer...

So technically other than mule deer are recognized as their own species now they are a hybrid...

:-D

KodiakHntr
01-27-2011, 08:20 AM
It didn't say in the article what tag the hunter cut

Why, I believe you could ask that hunter right here on this forum.........grin

Ol' Othmar is a member here..............

bighornbob
01-27-2011, 09:23 AM
If you do shoot a hybrid, what tag do you cut if you have both in your hunters booklet?

If you ever shoot a hybrid and thats a BIG "IF", tag the animal as to what it looks like the most. Ignore, the antlers and look at the rest of the animal, if it looks like a mulie, tag it as a mulie and so forth for a whitetail. But once again do not look use the anters as a guide to figuring out what species it is. As another member put it, most "hybrids" are just a 3 point mulie (like the BC outdooors blog) with a a missing point so their antlers looks like those of a whitetail.

BHB

urbanhermit
01-27-2011, 01:40 PM
The hybrid tag is right next to the unicorn tag. Not good to sit around figuring out ways to incriminate yourself, just go out and spend time watching deer and learning...

Tyler96
01-27-2011, 02:14 PM
The hybrid tag is right next to the unicorn tag. Not good to sit around figuring out ways to incriminate yourself, just go out and spend time watching deer and learning...

so are you saying they don't exist and the article I read is bogus? My uncle tells me not to believe everything I read and hear! :-D

Kirby
01-27-2011, 02:23 PM
so are you saying they don't exist and the article I read is bogus? My uncle tells me not to believe everything I read and hear! :-D


Your Uncle is a smart man. In this case I'd agree with him.

savagecanuck
01-27-2011, 02:46 PM
Ok I shot a WT 3 yrs ago with the weirdest rack I;ll post some pics later and you can tell me what you think

urbanhermit
01-27-2011, 02:58 PM
just spend time in the bush and form opinions for yourself, not worth spending time or looking for a freak of nature that may be common or non existant. it would be like hunting for a deer with a broken left foot and a missing right ear. whats the point?
Magizines and the net are entertainment filled with information, knowledge is best learned in the field.
just go out and have fun and stick close to your uncle..

savagecanuck
01-27-2011, 03:21 PM
Its the top left rack prob not a hybrid just weird
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/3961/img4158vg.jpg
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4681/img4155lz.jpg
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/5681/img4156s.jpg
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2958/img4157cv.jpg

6616
01-27-2011, 06:43 PM
Racks are absolutely the "least" conclusive way to identify a hybrid. Dozens of hybrid claims are made every year based on racks, 99.9% of these claims are erroneous. The tail is the more widely accepted visual identifying feature.

Gateholio
01-27-2011, 06:57 PM
so are you saying they don't exist and the article I read is bogus? My uncle tells me not to believe everything I read and hear! :-D

Your uncle sounds like a smart man...:wink:

oscar makonka
01-27-2011, 07:41 PM
I read the BC Outdoors article. I find it quite a stretch of imagination that an experienced and supposedly knowledgeable outdoor writer kills, then photographs a deer he declares a hybrid. Yet he takes no pictures of any hybrid charasteristics to identify this supposed hybrid. If I were an author with any credibility, wanted to maintain any credibility, was planning to write an article about hybrids, really did shoot an actual hybrid, I would be all over it taking pictures to prove it and show what a hybrid actually looks like..........Major credibility fail.......:rolleyes:

1/2 slam
01-27-2011, 09:20 PM
I read the BC Outdoors article. I find it quite a stretch of imagination that an experienced and supposedly knowledgeable outdoor writer kills, then photographs a deer he declares a hybrid. Yet he takes no pictures of any hybrid charasteristics to identify this supposed hybrid. If I were an author with any credibility, wanted to maintain any credibility, was planning to write an article about hybrids, really did shoot an actual hybrid, I would be all over it taking pictures to prove it and show what a hybrid actually looks like..........Major credibility fail.......:rolleyes:

Absolutely 100% correct. All I see in the article is a mule deer plain and simple.

Nathaniel Poe
01-27-2011, 11:20 PM
If I shot a "real" hybrid, I'd be taking pictures of the antlers, the body and especially the tail, and since taking pictures is fast, I wouldn't be worrying too much about a bear nearby.I have a rifle, you know! Then I would bring that deer to a CO or better yet, a biologist!

The one hybrid I saw in the US magazine I talked about before had lots of pictures that confirmed a true hybrid. Tyler, if you ever become the .000001% of hunters to shoot a hybrid, make sure you take pictures to prove it!:-D

Gateholio
01-28-2011, 12:09 AM
So I finally read th blog and I see it's Huntwriter that shot the hybrid.

You had both a whitetail and mule deer tag, so which tag did you cut?:confused:

urbanhermit
01-28-2011, 12:16 AM
should have been both, one for each end, then youre covered..