Hunters for BC

[Wentrot]

The way Shane Brady portrays himself on some fb groups will turn a lot of people. He is on one heck of a high horse and has cut far to many guys down for taking animals he feels they shouldn’t be. Younger bucks, antlerless deer etc.

I am very concerned his main agenda will be toward further restricting hunters.

[HighCountryBC]

The way Shane Brady portrays himself on some fb groups will turn a lot of people. He is on one heck of a high horse and has cut far to many guys down for taking animals he feels they shouldn’t be. Younger bucks, antlerless deer etc.

I am very concerned his main agenda will be toward further restricting hunters.

I would say this is a very accurate assessment.

[Bugle M In]

The way Shane Brady portrays himself on some fb groups will turn a lot of people. He is on one heck of a high horse and has cut far to many guys down for taking animals he feels they shouldn’t be. Younger bucks, antlerless deer etc.

I am very concerned his main agenda will be toward further restricting hunters.

Well, off to FB and a few more emails I go.

[Stone Sheep Steve]

The way Shane Brady portrays himself on some fb groups will turn a lot of people. He is on one heck of a high horse and has cut far to many guys down for taking animals he feels they shouldn’t be. Younger bucks, antlerless deer etc.

I am very concerned his main agenda will be toward further restricting hunters.

Completely agree with you on this one. He may be a great hunter but his poisonous attitude and lack of basic wildlife biology and management will sink this new ship that is trying to sail.

It would appear that this new group is attempting to rely on hunting regulations to change the downward trend in wildlife populations.

And from our FB conversations Robin, it seems like you don’t realize that our wildlife managers are woefully underfunded. Regulations are cheap and easy to change, right?

Seems this group is lacking its 30,000 view.

I’m 100% NOT supporting this group.

SSS

[HighCountryBC]

Completely agree with you on this one. He may be a great hunter but his poisonous attitude and lack of basic wildlife biology and management will sink this new ship that is trying to sail.

It would appear that this new group is attempting to rely on hunting regulations to change the downward trend in wildlife populations.

And from our FB conversations Robin, it seems like you don’t realize that our wildlife managers are woefully underfunded. Regulations are cheap and easy to change, right?

Seems this group is lacking its 30,000 view.

I’m 100% NOT supporting this group.

SSS

This is what my interactions with those individuals has been like as well. Judging by the amateurish petitions they've been passing around, their main reason for starting this group seems to be centred around the whitetail antlerless and October any buck seasons. Thanks, but no thanks.

Groups like WSSBC and 1Campfire will continue to have my support.

[Wild one]

This is what my interactions with those individuals has been like as well. Judging by the amateurish petitions they've been passing around, their main reason for starting this group seems to be centred around the whitetail antlerless and October any buck seasons. Thanks, but no thanks.

Groups like WSSBC and 1Campfire will continue to have my support.

Could you post these petitions put out by this new org?

Definitely something that I would not support but curious about the theory behind it and if it’s individuals from this new org or back by the org it’s self

If this is the approach they are taking it is not the answer

[bearvalley]

Hey Rob thanks for the names, but there is nothing beside them as in biology degree, Bsc, environmental engineering etc, or any kind of education other than being an equipment operator. I don't think i am into supporting a group that seems to be tied to guiding either.

Wild Sheep Society

probably the most respected in BC

This is what my interactions with those individuals has been like as well. Judging by the amateurish petitions they've been passing around, their main reason for starting this group seems to be centred around the whitetail antlerless and October any buck seasons. Thanks, but no thanks.

Groups like WSSBC and 1Campfire will continue to have my support.

Here’s a question:
Piperdown made the statement that he won’t be supporting a group tied to guiding.
How much clout would the WSSBC have if the guiding industry dried up?
Theres a lot of funding directed to this province for wildlife projects from groups like SCI and the WSF.
Do you think BC would still see the international cash support we have rolling in now if those non resident guided hunters could not hunt here?

[RobU]

Here’s a question:
Piperdown made the statement that he won’t be supporting a group tied to guiding.
How much clout would the WSSBC have if the guiding industry dried up?
Theres a lot of funding directed to this province for wildlife projects from groups like SCI and the WSF.
Do you think BC would still see the international cash support we have rolling in now if those non resident guided hunters could not hunt here?

i don’t see the need to alienate ourselves from the guiding industry. I guided for 8 years and was some of the best years of my life. I can truthfully say hunting in a well managed guiding area is some of the best hunting in bc. Hunting generates close to 400 million dollars per year and employs 2000 plus people. The guiding industry plays a huge part in these numbers. Numbers the government cannot dispute. We will all need to work hard to improve hunter image and the guiding industry is no exception. Piperdown is entitled to his decision. As we all are. We do need to be accountable for our actions and decisions....then we can surely hold the government responsible for theirs. The WSSBC does amazing work and I fully support their efforts. They do need our help and support plus our work to help the rest of BC’s wildlife from grouse to moose.
I sure don’t want to preach to the choir. There’s not 1 solution to our problems so we will have to address them one at a time and stay focused.
I thank everyone for their comments and i will take the good with the bad. It’s part of it.
Robin.

[Ourea]

Here’s a question:
Piperdown made the statement that he won’t be supporting a group tied to guiding.
How much clout would the WSSBC have if the guiding industry dried up?
Theres a lot of funding directed to this province for wildlife projects from groups like SCI and the WSF.
Do you think BC would still see the international cash support we have rolling in now if those non resident guided hunters could not hunt here?

I understand the "clout" (more political than financial) that outfitters bring. And yes, definitely a big grain of sand on the scale.
So, you know i have helped on the guiding front and this is what I saw.
Hunter flies in on his private jet (great guy and a total piece of work)
Hunter is taken to camp.
Hunter kills.
Hunter flies out hrs after the kill.
Economic impact outside of guide fees...... next to zero.

Hunter put his pilots up in a hotel.
Hunter fueled his plane up here.
Took the hunter out for dinner...he paid.

So when someone states the impact of a hunt that someone paid 10's of thousands of dollars for as an economic driver......not reality.
That is a cloudy leverage statement at best.

Less than 5% of that hunt went into the local/provincial economy.
95+% went into the outfitter.
Do not sell economic impact as that is easily debunked.

Outfitters are an important part of hunting and its future here in BC due to their political leverage and contributions to protect their business model.
They are a key component, agreed.




Outfitters have political clout, that I fully understand.

[bearvalley]

I understand the "clout" (more political than financial) that outfitters bring. And yes, definitely a big grain of sand on the scale.
So, you know i have helped on the guiding front and this is what I saw.
Hunter flies in on his private jet (great guy and a total piece of work)
Hunter is taken to camp.
Hunter kills.
Hunter flies out hrs after the kill.
Economic impact outside of guide fees...... next to zero.

Hunter put his pilots up in a hotel.
Hunter fueled his plane up here.
Took the hunter out for dinner...he paid.

So when someone states the impact of a hunt that someone paid 10's of thousands of dollars for as an economic driver......not reality.
That is a cloudy leverage statement at best.

Less than 5% of that hunt went into the local/provincial economy.
95+% went into the outfitter.
Do not sell economic impact as that is easily debunked.

Outfitters are an important part of hunting and its future here in BC due to their political leverage and contributions to protect their business model.
They are a key component, agreed.




Outfitters have political clout, that I fully understand.

And where does the outfitters 95% go.....it sure as hell doesn’t stay jammed in his pocket!