Hunters for BC

[adriaticum]

Man, am I getting frustrated....not even 8:30 am and I feel like pouring a drink over all this BS.

The reason for your frustration has been clear to me for years and I have stated it on numerous occasions.
I don't think anyone is hearing me.

With the advent of all these social media pages hunting community has been fragmented to a point beyond repair IMO.
Every time someone doesn't agree with someone and the conversations get heated some people just can't control their tempers and some can't see the big picture.

The admins of these social media sites, including HBC to a degree, have created this problem by banning people from their sites, just because they can.
The attitude is that it's a private site and I have control so I can have anyone I want to because I think they are an asshole.
Then these banned individuals go and create another page, take their supporters with them and we keep fragmenting more and more.
What this attitude has created is that now there are hundreds of hunting sites, hundreds of people with grudges against other people.
We are right where the antis want us to be.
Yet 10 or more years ago, there was only HuntingBC.ca.
Now there is 300 different sites.
Everyone who didn't agree with something, or was banned by someone created their own page.
Just think about the people who are no longer on this site and I can think of many and are important and have tons to contribute.
(Good to see dana is back)

I know several admins on many of these sites and some like pink Cadillacs, some blue Fords and red Chevys but at the end of the day they all want the same thing.
Continuation of our hunting heritage.

People need to think beyond their personal grudges and opinions and think about the big picture and unification of hunters in this province.
Otherwise we will keep fragmenting and will drive our hunting heritage to oblivion.

It's better to have a fist fight one on one, than pull a gun and shoot somebody because you can't go back from that.

[Piperdown]

Hey Rob thanks for the names, but there is nothing beside them as in biology degree, Bsc, environmental engineering etc, or any kind of education other than being an equipment operator. I don't think i am into supporting a group that seems to be tied to guiding either.

[338win mag]

Peel back a few layers....if I have to watch my six then I won't be joining any hunting groups.

[Bugle M In]

ATTENTION EVERYONE:

Here I just stated on my last post WSS is a great Org.
WELL< HOLD ON, just read this on another thread.
Think everyone should read it!!!!

If this post is true, WSS just blew not one, but both their feet off in a second!!!!!

POST #6: http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/showth...s-GET-INVOLVED

[IronNoggin]

ATTENTION EVERYONE:

Here I just stated on my last post WSS is a great Org.
WELL< HOLD ON, just read this on another thread.
Think everyone should read it!!!!

If this post is true, WSS just blew not one, but both their feet off in a second!!!!!

POST #6: http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/showth...s-GET-INVOLVED

I'd suggest holding off on the witch hunt here for just a little spell.
I have heard a somewhat different version of what went down in that regard.
Reaching out now to determine when their statement in this regard will be released...

Nog

[Bugle M In]

I'd suggest holding off on the witch hunt here for just a little spell.
I have heard a somewhat different version of what went down in that regard.
Reaching out now to determine when their statement in this regard will be released...

Nog

Fair enough, I wasn't really on a witch hunt, I just saw the post and went WTF?
That's why I posted it for more to see to get the "real deal" to whether it is true or false.
I will wait.

[Wild one]

Every single hunting org will vote in favour of some form of restrictions it just varies from hunting methods, access restrictions, a season or LEH

BC will continue to see more restrictions in the future. BC still to this day offers some of the most liberal and least restrictive opportunities in North America.

[Bugle M In]

Every single hunting org will vote in favour of some form of restrictions it just varies from hunting methods, access restrictions, a season or LEH

BC will continue to see more restrictions in the future. BC still to this day offers some of the most liberal and least restrictive opportunities in North America.

I know you have made the statement in the past that maybe we need a bunch of little Org, representing separate issues in BC.
I have to be honest, I think that is why it is all messed up in BC.

The more I talk to different people, listen to them.
They talk about this R&G club wants this and that R&G club wants that.
Then you have WSS going this way, the GOABC going that way, BCWF going...well, who knows where they are going?, you have the Bow
folks going another way.

THATS A BIG PROBLEM!!!

I am president of a strata (I don't want to be but had no choice, everything was messed up and was asked to take over).
The Council can operate with "up to 7 members"
Guess what???:
Noting got done, too many chefs in the pot!

Now, I got it down to the "minimum" of 3 on council.
NOW, shit gets done!
1 calls the shots, the other 2 either agree or disagree.
You can guess who calls the shots

An you know what, all the owners are happy!
So happy, I barely have enough of then]m show up at the yearly AGM.
WHY....because things are working!
IF there were issues, the AGM would be a full house.
That's how I know I am still on the right direction.

LESS IS MORE!

[Wild one]

I will have to disagree for the fact the hunting community is very diverse and it is virtually impossible for one organization to represent the hunting as a whole. The fact of the matter is there is conflicting interests and visions amongst the hunting community because people hunt for many different reasons with different goals. This is something that people need to realize there is no one size fits all. This is why I have said it many times over the years that B.C. hunters need to learn to have give and take within the hunting community if there is any hope of ever achieving some form of unity

To have any form of unity there will need to be healthy debate amongst people representing the different forms of hunters within the hunting community. There also needs to be a realization that effort to compromise so the different from’s of hunting are promoted. This is not happening in B.C.

Easy to have an org that strictly focuses of wildlife but as soon as hunter management/opportunity comes into play that is where things go to hell

[Bugle M In]

I will have to disagree for the fact the hunting community is very diverse and it is virtually impossible for one organization to represent the hunting as a whole. The fact of the matter is there is conflicting interests and visions amongst the hunting community because people hunt for many different reasons with different goals. This is something that people need to realize there is no one size fits all. This is why I have said it many times over the years that B.C. hunters need to learn to have give and take within the hunting community if there is any hope of ever achieving some form of unity

To have any form of unity there will need to be healthy debate amongst people representing the different forms of hunters within the hunting community. There also needs to be a realization that effort to compromise so the different from’s of hunting are promoted. This is not happening in B.C.

Easy to have an org that strictly focuses of wildlife but as soon as hunter management/opportunity comes into play that is where things go to hell

Exactly!
I agree, many different interests.
That's the big problem, but it is a real problem.
These folks need to get it thru their heads that they need to focus on big issues and drop their little private interests.
That's why I say, too many folks, too many opinions, and sweet F'all comes from it.
Well, not exactly, a ton of BS garbage is usually the result.
The evidence is in the pudding that many of us see year after year.